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DJGray
Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:31:44 AM

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I'm sitting in Seattle (at SeaTac) watching the Airport CNN feed, and it looks like Mitt Romney is dropping out of the race now. This whole presidential run is just very disturbing to me. I'm really struggling with it - probably more than I should.

I just don't trust McCain. I was pulling for Fred Thompson, and then he dropped, so I shifted to Romney, and now he has dropped. Who do I turn to now? Huckabee?? I have concerns there as well, but I'm wondering if he might be stronger than McCain.

McCain has "no soul" and that is scary to me. It should be scary to anyone. He shifts allegiances way too easily, and has no commitment to his party or his base. I don't want to be constantly guessing where my President's allegiances are. I need to know where they stand, even if I disagree with them. With Hillary or Barak, I know where they stand, regardless of what they claim. Hillary is left; way left. Barak is to the left of Hillary, so he is way, way left. Where is McCain? No one knows for sure. Who is he allied with today? Who will he buddy up to tomorrow? We don't really know. He will stab you in the back while kissing your cheek, and I just support an integrity void like that.

I'm reticent to post this, but we are trying to foster open, honest discussion on this forum, so I need to practice what I'm asking of our readers.

Who is your candidate?? (Feel free to blast away at my mental ramblings above.)


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  • Brat
    Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:42:23 PM

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    I appreciate your comments and thoughts DJGrey, even when I disagree with them! Hehehe...

    I was disappointed in Romney's decision to drop out, not because I was a supporter, but because it has taken away the opportunity of further discussion and debate between the two. I'm a Clinton supporter myself and with the state of affairs in the White House as they are and the feeling of many Americans, I seriously doubt that a Republican will win this election. I've never voted solely on party (except of course in the primaries), but I will definitely not be voting Republican this time around. Many will vote democrat this election solely for the fact that a woman or african american is running. I'm not in that category.

    Clinton and Obama have voiced the same views on many issues important to me, although I think Obama has picked up a few of those views from Clinton. I believe Clinton has the knowledge, contacts and experience to hit the ground running, which this Country sorely needs at this point in time. Additionally, I agree with you that Obama is too far to the left. Myself...I'm more in the middle or just left of center so that does matter a great deal to me.

    It's still early in the race and I may have to eat my words if Clinton doesn't get the nomination. But on the other hand between Obama, McCain and Huckabee... Shifty I might have to go with Obama. Yikes!
    Poindexter Prometheus Parkenfarker
    Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:27:52 PM

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    As both Billary and Obama have stated emphatically that will revisit the so called assault weapons ban ( which was purely based on Asthetics and not performance, Both have said that they will raise taxes on "the rich" which in their definition is anyone earning more than $50K per year. Both want the working class to pay for health care for those who choose not to work. Both have stated that some need to give so that others may have.
    This is simply redistribution of wealth. Very Marxist thinking from these two.
    To finally add insult to injury, they are both for surrendering to an enemy that we are defeating.
    Sounds like LBJ right after the TET offensive of the NVA failed.
    I like Romney, I have hesitations about McCain, as he sounds too much like a Democrat on many issues.
    However, he understands the war that has been declared on western civilization by Wahhabist extremists. (Obama's schooling, by the way; why is he being silent on Louis Farrakan's financial support?)
    Looks like it's McCain... just hope he doesn't pick Joe (the moderate) Lieberman as his running mate...

    You better laugh at yourself,
    Everyone else is.

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    DJGray
    Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:02:58 PM

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    Brat, thank you for posting, and for your candid responses. I'm genuinely glad to have you here on EoW. This is a more conservative forum, and I appreciate having you post from a different perspective.

    Brat wrote:
    Many will vote democrat this election solely for the fact that a woman or african american is running. I'm not in that category.


    Kudos to you for not being a novelty voter. Voting is tremendously important, and not to be taken lightly. Unfortunately, you are correct in your assessment of many voters' reason for casting a vote this election. However, it is a double-edged sword, and there are many who are just bigoted enough to NOT vote for those very same reasons. I trust neither of us is in that category either.

    Brat wrote:
    I was disappointed in Romney's decision to drop out, not because I was a supporter, but because it has taken away the opportunity of further discussion and debate between the two.


    That's an astute observation, and I quite agree, that Romney raised the level of the discussion. If you had a chance to hear is "withdrawal speech," it was just exceptional. I wanted to stand up and cheer while at the airport. Now, as for Clinton and Obama:

    Brat wrote:
    I seriously doubt that a Republican will win this election. I've never voted solely on party (except of course in the primaries), but I will definitely not be voting Republican this time around. Many will vote democrat this election solely for the fact that a woman or african american is running. I'm not in that category.

    Clinton and Obama have voiced the same views on many issues important to me, although I think Obama has picked up a few of those views from Clinton. I believe Clinton has the knowledge, contacts and experience to hit the ground running, which this Country sorely needs at this point in time. Additionally, I agree with you that Obama is too far to the left. Myself...I'm more in the middle or just left of center so that does matter a great deal to me.

    It's still early in the race and I may have to eat my words if Clinton doesn't get the nomination.


    I have not seen this much "excitement" about a candidate in my lifetime. I'm forty-six. Now, Reagan did generate a bit of it, but not to the level that I am seeing with Obama. When he was speaking on Super Tuesday, there was a young blonde woman behind him, over his left shoulder, who was looking at him like he was the 2nd coming of the Messiah. I mean she adored this man. She was so enraptured that she could hardly contain it. That's the excitement I'm talking about.

    Now, with Hillary, it is the opposite effect. There are people like yourself who respect and admire her. You believe in her abilities. Hillary, however, is a very polarizing woman. If she wins the nomination, there will be people on both sides of the aisle who will come out just to vote against her. Honestly, I support her Democratic nomination for that reason alone. I believe she is the easier candidate to defeat.

    However, Obama will be run through the meat grinder for his lack of experience. It is a legitimate point, but I'm not sure how much of an effect the argument will have, particularly with the youth vote. What we are seeing in the Obama young voter turnout is nothing short of a phenomenon. He has the "IT" factor going for him. He looks good and sounds good. He looks presidential.

    On the Republican side, there just isn't that sort of excitement. For many of us, particularly the more conservative Rs, the question is not, "Who am I the most excited about," but rather, "who can I stomach?" I hate saying these things, but integrity and honesty are important to me, and I'm not going to pretend to be excited about John McCain as a candidate when I'm not.

    I respect John in many ways. I mean, here we have a man who is imprisoned in Asia, and after a couple of years is offered his freedom because his father was a man of importance. And he refuses it!! He stayed in that prison for about four more years while the beat the crap out of him for refusing to leave! Okay, you just have to respect a man like that. But that doesn't necessarily translate into my wanting him to be my President.

    Okay, my son wants to go get dinner, so I need to shut down here. But Brat, I really appreciate you sharing your point of view here. Please continue to do so.



    Mark Twain wrote:

    A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting its shoes on.

  • Mark Twain


  • Baron Miller wrote:

    Grace ruins the idea that you are fully in charge.

  • Baron Miller



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